Bridging the Gap: Human and Animal Communication Explored

Get ready to embark on an astonishing journey with the extraordinary Alicia Sweezer, former wildlife biologist turned intuitive life coach and animal communicator. Alicia, with her unique blend of analytical prowess and intuition, has a fascinating story to tell. From helping humans transform their behaviors, mindsets, and relationships to assisting pet owners in understanding their furry companions better, Alicia's experiences are nothing short of inspiring.

Dive headfirst into an exploration of the wondrous world of animal communication. Hear Alicia unravel her experiences with missing-pet recovery and her process of connecting remotely, using a pet's photograph to communicate and locate them. She recounts a heartwarming story of assisting a pet owner find their missing cat, shedding light on the crucial role of energy and the psychic nature of animals. There's also a riveting discussion about the potential of mediums for both humans and animals.

Alicia also delves into her struggles with a long-term illness and how her mediumship ability played a vital role in her recovery. She emphasizes energy alignment's significance in manifesting our desires and how the people in our lives can influence this process. Moreover, she shares about her intriguing podcast, Insights with Alicia, where she covers unique topics guided by the universe. Be prepared for an episode replete with profound insights on animal communication, energy alignment, and much more!

"No Place Like Home" is a podcast about missing pets. I feature content from owners, finders, volunteers, and professionals.

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Remember to always think missing, not stray or dumped.

This podcast was created, hosted, recorded, and produced by me, Mitch Bernard. The opinions expressed on this show are those of the people expressing them and do not necessarily represent the views of any other entity.

Chapters

• 0:04 Animal Communication and Healing in Pets
• 6:27 Mediumship and Missing Pets
• 11:38 Rescuing a Lost Cat
• 15:34 Tips for Finding a Lost Cat
• 23:23 Handling Missing Pets and Animal Predators
• 35:28 Animal Communication and Responsibility
• 47:53 Healing Trauma and Energetic Alignment
• 52:36 Animal Communication Sessions and Podcast Topics

Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00:04):
Hello and welcome to No Place Like Home, the podcast about missing pets. I'm your host, Mitch Bernard. I'm excited to have spoken with Alicia Sweezer this week. She's an animal communicator among many other things. Up next, my interview with Alicia. Tell me about yourself and what you do. Please, <laugh> 

Speaker 3 (00:00:28):
The question that every introvert, you know, is terrified of who 

Speaker 2 (00:00:31):
I know. Who would you like? 

Speaker 3 (00:00:33):
Yeah. 'cause I am an introvert, although most people argue with me that I'm not. Same. 

Speaker 2 (00:00:37):
Same. 

Speaker 3 (00:00:38):
So, right. Yeah. Um, so yes. So I, um, I do many things and it's not what I ever expected I would do. So I'm a former wildlife biologist. Hmm. I thought I would be a biologist forever. That was my plan. And, you know, what happens when we have plans? Yes. 

Speaker 2 (00:00:55):
<laugh>. Um, 

Speaker 3 (00:00:56):
And then I, um, I got hurt. I received another head injury. I've had multiple traumatic brain injuries. Wow. And so Wow. I wasn't able to continue to do, and it didn't happen on the job. Like it didn't happen falling out of a tree. Right. Any really cool story 

Speaker 2 (00:01:11):
Of like, nothing exciting, like, like, you know, I was saving up all the ankle and, um, 

Speaker 3 (00:01:17):
So, uh, and that, that set my life on a completely different course. Yeah. And I wouldn't trade any second of it. That was 2006. Um, and it, it has been a very, very long recovery. Yeah. But the gifts that came in it so much are, I never thought I would have my own business. I never thought I would be doing something like I do now. And I wouldn't change it for the world. Look, I get all emotional. Oh, that's 

Speaker 2 (00:01:42):
Awesome. <laugh>. So, no, I get emotional with you. 

Speaker 3 (00:01:45):
I know. So, and I'm a feeler too, so, um, yep. I have a business and it's a dual faceted business. So I have a human side of where I'm an intuitive life coach, intuitive mentor, um, spirituality coach, where I help people really change foundational core, um, things, their mindsets, their behaviors, the relationships. Because the really cool thing is because I'm super analytical. Right. I was a scientist. My friends call me the scientific psychic, which is hysterical. Oh, that's 

Speaker 2 (00:02:13):
Cool. Yeah. That would be the name of my website. Why were you? Right. 

Speaker 3 (00:02:17):
I, I was like, why did that come up? In the beginning I would've called it that because who knew feeling? I didn't name it either. The universe was like, this is what you're gonna call it. And I was like, what? And it's kind of the same. It's like, who knew The science girl was also psychic. 

Speaker 2 (00:02:30):
Yeah. And, 

Speaker 3 (00:02:31):
Um, but whether it's animal behavior or people behavior, it's the same for me at least. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so also because I'm an intuitive and I can feel the energy when we're looking at their mindsets or behaviors, I can, I can pull it apart in a different way than other people. Just my unique superpower mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so, uh, I work a lot with people, uh, narcissistic recco, abuse, recovery. Um, I've had a lot of narcissists in my life, and I've been able to recover and heal that. So I get to help others. Lot of relationship, um, things. Uh, it's what sometimes a lot of my podcast is about is behaviors. And then very cool. I have a whole animal side to my business still, and I am an animal communicator and more of a consultant as well, because I have a lifetime of education and experience mm-hmm. 

Speaker 3 (00:03:17):
<affirmative> experience in wildlife. So in animal behavior, in animal, um, biology, anatomy, all of those kind of things. So the really cool thing is that, um, not only get, do I get to deliver the messages of what their animals want them to know, I get to explain to the pet parent what's happening. So this is what the medicine does in your animal's body. This is how it happens. So mm-hmm. <affirmative>, if they're having a reaction to the medicine, I can explain, you know, this is, this is why it's happening. This is the part of the body. I can explain the anatomy. And also behaviorally, I can also teach them like, this is normal cat behavior, like a cat as far as a cat can see. Sure. They own all of that. That part in the Lion King is true. Yeah. <laugh>, 

Speaker 2 (00:03:57):
It's like 

Speaker 3 (00:03:58):
Everything that does sun touches until something pushes against it. Yeah. So I have clients with indoor outdoor kitties and um mm-hmm. And they're like, I just thought he was being a jerk. And I'm like, no, he believes all of this is his until something a dog, another person mm-hmm. Pushes against him. And so I get to explain the behavior, and then if we wanna do any training, cats', dogs, that sort of thing, um, we get to do that. So it really encompasses everything. If there's medical issues going on, health training, behavioral, I get a lot of end of life transition. Um mm-hmm. <affirmative> pet parents because they've tried everything else. So now they're gonna try the weird thing, which I totally understand. And I, that is just one of the things that's so dear to my heart, because I am an animal person of like, being able to give the information that they want mm-hmm. <affirmative> so that everybody has peace of mind. Everybody knows they're delivering, whether it's the parent or the animal is delivering the messages and everyone's on the same page. 

Speaker 2 (00:04:53):
So, like, when you talk about that, that aspect of your work, that's like, I have an animal who's sick and I'm trying to figure out whether this is the right time. Yes. They've, and you're sort of communicating Yeah. That information. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:05:07):
They've received a diagnosis or something is wrong and mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, as humans, we do so many things, particularly Right. There's a, there's always a financial part to it, and people 

Speaker 2 (00:05:16):
Go through. There definitely is Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:05:17):
A lot of guilt of like, oh, what if I don't have the money for the treatment? Yeah. And when I get to deliver the messages of like, look, you're pet, they, because animals view death completely different how than humans do completely mm-hmm. <affirmative> life and death. They view it completely different. And so when I get to deliver those meshes that your animal is fine, their time is up, they know it's time for them to go and it's not a money issue. They don't want the cancer treatment or, and so that alleviates so many of the human aspects that we go through as pet parents. Right. And it's one of the things that I tell people, and they've, even, some of my clients have even put this on their testimonials of like, if I could get people to not wait. Yeah. So those last three months, those last six months, if you come to me and you get that information mm-hmm. <affirmative>, those last few months can be completely different. You're not stressed. Right. You're not doubting, you're not going, oh my gosh, am I doing the right thing? What you have the information that your animal wants you to have, and those last few months are completely different. 'cause you're able to be present and have the love and process the grief together before the transition happens. 

Speaker 2 (00:06:23):
Yeah. Yeah. It's, I, yeah, I really, one of the things that's really difficult about the work that I do, um, with, um, missing pet recovery is mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, sometimes finding myself in end of life situations. And, um, one of the things it's very, it's very hard to think about, um, an animal, uh, not a person not having the opportunity to be with that animal and, you know, um, say goodbye, whatever, you know, which I think is probably more for the person than for the animal. But I think it's, it's difficult to, I have a hard time thinking about the animal dying in pain, dying, you know, alone being afraid. Um, you know, any, like an animal being afraid is like the worst thing in the world to me. <laugh>. Right. Absolutely. Handle it. So, you know, I hear about, um, uh, the animals dying sudden mm-hmm. 

Speaker 2 (00:07:30):
<affirmative> unfortunate demises, um, when they're, when they're out missing. And that's, um, so my point being, it's very nice to, you're very lucky if you have the opportunity to spend some time with your pet, knowing that the end is coming. But, um, you know, being able to really embrace that time and, and yeah. Be with them. And, uh, yeah. We've, we've been through that a a few times and it's, I mean, it's never fun, but it's so much better if you can do it at home and you can mm-hmm. <affirmative> do it in, you know, sort of a pace that's comfortable. Right. Um, so, um, is there any, um, uh, work that you do with animals who have already died? Yes. Passed along? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, so, okay. Yeah. I'm so, yeah, go ahead. 

Speaker 3 (00:08:23):
I was just gonna say I'm a medium for people and animals, so. Okay. Interesting. It's, and for me it's the, it's the same process. Anyone else is ever curious of, like, how does it work for me? It's the same process, so mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, there's a, one of my clients, she's on the website, her kitty passed two days before we had scheduled our session. Hmm. And, um, and it, the process is exactly the same. Like, I, they're still there for me. I get to give the messages. It's still very healing. Um, so yes. For people and animals. Interesting. I, I think more, I think people are more used to there being a medium for humans, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> people will go to talk to their grandma and that sort of thing. Um, I don't think it's as commonly known that they mediums exist for animals as well. Hmm. 

Speaker 2 (00:09:10):
Yeah. Yeah. I suspect that's true. Um, so, Hmm. I wanna talk about all of those things, <laugh>. I 

Speaker 3 (00:09:20):
Know, right? 

Speaker 2 (00:09:21):
I was like, first here's, it's very interesting. Um, so in the context of, um, missing pets mm-hmm. <affirmative>, for instance, let's talk a little bit about what, um, you might do with, um, a pet owner whose pet is missing. And as far as we know it's alive, um, if I were to bring you in to work with that owner, what kinds of things might you ask them? Um, might you be able to communicate with them? What, um, if you've ever worked on any of those kind of cases, of course I'd love to hear about 'em, but, you know, like, what would that entail, would that look like to you? 

Speaker 3 (00:09:56):
So, um, seriously enough, and we, you know, right before we, I, I told you when we connected, I was like, I've only done this, the, the lost pet once. It's still ongoing. It literally started like two days before you and I connected. 

Speaker 2 (00:10:11):
Oh my gosh. <laugh>. 

Speaker 3 (00:10:12):
I was like, I was like, Hey, so I got one. I dunno if, um, yeah. So a current client of mine, one of her kitties went missing, um, about a, uh, nine days ago, I think we're at mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the, their indoor outdoor kitties. So it, it wasn't a thing for, um, him to go out mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he just has not returned. And so she reached out and I, I told her, I was like, look, I, there are psychics who, whether they're for humans or animals that have the really, really specific superpower of, Hey, your car keys are in the third drawer in the kitchen. Yeah. You know, like, they have that ama And I was like, I don't have that <laugh>, 

Speaker 2 (00:10:51):
That'd be nice. 

Speaker 3 (00:10:52):
<laugh>. I was like, I have a lot of gifts. I specifically don't have that one, but I'll do what I can. 

Speaker 2 (00:10:59):
Yeah. And, 

Speaker 3 (00:11:00):
You know, I'm not the finder of lost things, even though I would. Right. Who wouldn't love 

Speaker 2 (00:11:04):
To. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:11:05):
Yeah. Um, most of the time when my stuff's missing, I just tell, I was like, tell my team, like, will you just bring it back? Like, stop hiding my stuff. <laugh>. Yeah. So then it'll show up. 

Speaker 2 (00:11:14):
Yeah. Somehow. 

Speaker 3 (00:11:15):
Right. So what it has looked like, um, and wouldn't it be magical if I get a text from her while we're on here and she's like, he finally 

Speaker 2 (00:11:23):
Came. That would be pretty cool, because 

Speaker 3 (00:11:24):
I told, I was like, listen, I'm gonna be talking to some people. Like, let's have a story. Yeah. That's successful here. 

Speaker 2 (00:11:30):
Yeah. And this is about the timeframe when you, uh, anyway, go ahead. We can talk about that after. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:11:37):
He's been, um, so when I started to talk to him, uh, because the process is the same, I c because the truth is, is 99% of animal communication is done remotely mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, um, so I, and I have a picture 'cause that helps me zero. Otherwise, when I open the door, everybody's there, <laugh>, you know, and I'm like, where's the kitty I'm looking for? Yes. And, uh, so I was chatting with him and he, he has very much been in the space of kind of like a teenage boy. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> of like, I'm fine, I'm doing my thing. Leave me alone. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and he was like that for a, a significant period of time, and he was really far away from home. And she lives on the south rim of the Grand Canyon. Oh. And she's very much out in the wilderness. 

Speaker 3 (00:12:23):
Yeah. And so, you know, there were some other concerns where I was like, um, you know, there's, there's other things out there with you, <laugh>, there's other predators, that sort of thing. And he was not worried he, but he was a significant period or distance from home. And then as the days have gone by, he's gotten closer and closer. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. There was one point where I was a little concerned 'cause he did start to feel pretty weak. And I was like, okay. You know, I mean that heat alone, right? Yeah. You know, predators and water and all of those kind of things. Yeah. And he did have some storms up there. It has not rained at my house. Um mm-hmm. So he did have access to water and, um, and so it, this is what the process has been like. And then the last few days he's finally, he's very close to home mm-hmm. 

Speaker 3 (00:13:09):
<affirmative> and I can feel the direction that he's in. And I told her, like, it's been a really interesting, good learning experience for me as far as mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I, because I care very much about all of my clients, human and animals mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Sure. And I, I take what I do very seriously and I'm very professional in it, and I put a lot of pressure on myself particularly mm-hmm. In this kind of situation. And I was like, well, this is interesting to see about myself, <laugh>. Yeah. Um, and so it's been a classroom for everybody. Yeah. And, you know, so I can feel that he's to the south. I was like, he's within about like a 30 minute walk, and in the last two days he has started to be like, okay, kind of tired of doing my own thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I might start to think about going home. 

Speaker 3 (00:13:50):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but he still, you know, so when I check in, when their body, I was like, he feels healthy. He doesn't feel weak, you know, he rebounded from where I thought mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Okay. We might be at a time that, yeah, you know, this may end a little differently. Um, but he's back to feeling like a teenage boy and, uh, just sort of that whole, you know, 16 year old human boy, like, right. No, don't, you know, don't talk to me. Yeah. I'm fine. Yeah. My, yeah. And it's, and it's been so interesting 'cause animals usually, particularly dogs, dogs are always very open and like, oh my God, I have someone to talk to. Cats are always so funny. 'cause they meet me like right up front, like they're a little, like, they put their face and then they, I'm like, Hey, you know, and then they go, oh, it's you. And then they'll let me fully in which, you know, I love cats. So, um, and he's a particularly bratty kitty, which is one of my favorites also. But in this instance I'm like, go home. Yeah. Your mother, your pet mom is losing her mind. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, um, so there's a lot of, you know, um, facilitating the pet parent as well mm-hmm. <affirmative> doing what we can in these situations because I, and I keep telling, I was like, I wish I could just give you g p ss coordinates of where he is. 

Speaker 2 (00:14:59):
Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice? 

Speaker 3 (00:15:00):
And that would be my dream. And so it's been, it's the balance of that mm-hmm. Of where we're like, this is how he's feeling today. I he, 'cause there's a thing of free will, everybody still gets to choose. Sure. Yeah. And, and that's where he's gone back and forth, where I'm like, okay. And then I'm like, oh, he's, he's exercising his free will again at the moment. <laugh>. Yeah. And she's been great. It's been a rollercoaster for her. She loves him very much. And, um, so I, I'm hoping that in the next day or two that he returns home because he's very close now. 

Speaker 2 (00:15:33):
That'd be nice. Yes. Um, um, so, so your communication goes both ways. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you can communicate back with the animal, not just pull in information and give it to the owner. Yes. 

Speaker 3 (00:15:44):
Correct. It's no different than you and I chatting right now. 

Speaker 2 (00:15:47):
Interesting. Um, so about this cat, is he neutered? 

Speaker 3 (00:15:52):
Yes. 

Speaker 2 (00:15:54):
Is he microchipped? 

Speaker 3 (00:15:55):
He is. And we were texting about that the other day where it's like, yes, but the problem is you have to take the kitty to the scanner. <laugh>. I was like, 

Speaker 2 (00:16:03):
Well, it's true, but what it means, it eliminates, it doesn't really eliminate, but it reduces the chances that someone will pick him up and not, and he won't make it back to her. Exactly. Um, it increases the chances, you know, as long, a lot of vets do not check every animal at every visit. I wish they did. Yeah. Um, but, uh, it does, you know, at least give some comfort. Yes. Uh, in that regard. Um, yeah, it's, um, the fact that he had outdoor access, it me, it means, it doesn't surprise me so much that he went pretty far mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, because they do have kind of a comfort level with their immediate environment. Mm-hmm. And so the exploring urge takes 'em even farther. They can also get chased out of the area, like you were saying, about, you know, they consider everything to be theirs until they're, someone pushes back. Um, and it's pretty normal for them to circle back around from farther away to back toward home if they're able. So, um, I hope that that turns out to be the case. Um, has she been relying solely on your information or has she been, um, also doing more conventional, um, methods like putting out cameras and flyers and things like 

Speaker 3 (00:17:24):
That? Yes, she has. So she, all of her neighbors, even though they're pretty spread out because they're in mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, they all know, um, that he's missing mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, um, she has told everyone else that she knows in the area, like even if they're not her close neighbors mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, and then she has put out traps. So she started to put out traps a couple of days ago, which he, he thought was kind of funny. So like I said, he's very much in the teenager stage. <laugh>. Yeah. And he's extremely intelligent and conscious. You know, there's a whole sort of spectrum of consciousness among animals. Some are like just very much fully cats and not mm-hmm. <affirmative> very conscious, which is great. We love them too. And, but he's, he's very intelligent, which sometimes in these situations 

Speaker 2 (00:18:08):
And you don't tell him about the traps then. 

Speaker 3 (00:18:10):
Yeah, because, and well, and he knows know because he, he, yeah. He, that's the other thing is animals are very, him being awake as he is, they're very psychic and they feel the change in your energy. I made a, a video about this and, um, because I, it was, I, and I called it animals are the Masters of energy, because one, the main question I get asked so much when I'm out and about is how does my animal know that they're gonna go to the vet? Like, I don't even have the carrier out. Yeah. And so I walk people through the exercise for them to do with their own animals of like, the second you think about it, your energy changes. Hmm. And the animal reads that. Yeah. So they go hide under the couch or whatever. 'cause they're like, oh, mom got nervous. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:18:49):
I don't know what it is, but I know I need to hide. Sure. So it's that sort of sense. And then she, we've also been doing some, there's what we call energy polls. Mm-hmm. And so where she pulls his specific energy so that it is like this sort of reminder of like, Hey, here I am, come home. Um, energy poles are really for humans or animals, it's a really great technique, um, to manage the energy of what's going on in your life. I used to do it with pip, my kitty when he'd be howling at like three in the morning. Mm-hmm. And I would like come to bed. So I would just put my hand out and I would just pull on his energy, like half awake and he would come get in bed and go back to sleep. Aw. So we've been doing everything that we can possibly think of to get, um, him home. 

Speaker 2 (00:19:34):
Um, so I'm gonna volunteer a little bit of information. Absolutely. This is just what I do. Um, one thing that I would recommend is not setting traps right away, uh, until you know where he is, you caught him on camera. Um, or if you've got a specifically enough pinpointed location that you can put a trap there, great. But until you're getting like g p s coordinate kind of location, or at least you know, he's in this park or he's in this neighborhood or this yard or whatever, um, you will find, you will use your energy best if you can, um, identify where the cat is hiding or where he's feeding or, you know, a some travel path, um, by putting out trail cameras, game cameras, um, security cameras. There's some very inexpensive security cameras that are like 35 bucks depending on the, you know, whether there's wifi available or cellular or whatever. 

Speaker 2 (00:20:35):
But, um, once you identify that location, you can put a feeding station there. And, um, you can either assume that he's gonna go right into the trap the first time you put it out and go ahead and, you know, bait it and set it and all that stuff. Or you can train him to go in, which is, um, putting the food outside the mouth of the trap and zip tying the trap open. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, getting him, once you've got him on camera, eating at that location, you sort of move the food a little bit farther in, a little bit farther in a little bit until you've got him eating all the way inside. And then you set the trap. And I mean, you can do it any way you want, but what this does, uh, among other things is it ensures that you're catching the right animal mm-hmm. 

Speaker 2 (00:21:23):
<affirmative>, um, as much as possible. Like the, the, the security cams usually have a two-way microphone. So you can sort of, um, if it, if it signals you that there's motion and you look at the footage and it's the wrong animal, um, then you can, you know, stat, you know mm-hmm. You can sort of say that into the mic and that'll sometimes spook them enough that they'll take off. Um, and it just means that, uh, you, you're not going out there and baiting and resetting and baiting and resetting over and over again until you know that you're working with the right animal. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So that would be my advice with regard to the trapping. 

Speaker 3 (00:22:01):
Absolutely. And I even, because she's in the wilderness, we had a discussion about, yeah. You may be trapping other things besides, 

Speaker 2 (00:22:07):
You 

Speaker 3 (00:22:08):
Know, oh yeah. Your cat. And, um, so what 

Speaker 2 (00:22:11):
Kind of wildlife is there, um, out there that would be likely to be trying to get at that same food? 

Speaker 3 (00:22:17):
Um, other pets like you said, or, uh, rabbits. Um, okay. Any of the ground squirrels. Okay. Any, uh, of the tree squirrels. 'cause we have both in Arizona, <laugh>, so we have lots of squirrels, um, uh, depending, and I don't know how big her traps are. She, she put them out before she put them out before we had the discussion about the traps mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, um, so I, I don't know the size, obviously big enough to, to put a cat in mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, I'm trying to think what else if we have. I don't think a ringtail would go in, um, basically any of your smaller, uh, groundhogs, you know, any, any of your smaller mammals 

Speaker 2 (00:22:57):
Okay. Could potentially, I'm just not in a desert climate, so I don't remember what Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:23:00):
Well, she's on rim, so she's got trees and, um, it's like a grassland with pinyon juniper. Um, so it's not straight up 

Speaker 2 (00:23:08):
Gotcha. 

Speaker 3 (00:23:09):
Desert like here in Phoenix. So it's, it's a different habitat. 

Speaker 2 (00:23:12):
So additional advice you can pass on to her if she becomes, um, concerned about, uh, other animals starting to get in there and she has to reset or they're eating a bait or whatever for these little herbivores, um, you can distract them with, um, little food that's appropriate to them, but isn't, wouldn't necessarily be all that interesting to the cat. Right. Um, put that nearby, but not right up by the trap so that they're attracted, you know, if they're attracted to the trap for some reason, they're gonna go for that other, um, you know, carrots and seeds and whatever. Right. Yeah. Those animals, like, exactly. Um, and for omnivores or carnivores, um, things like raccoons are what we get a lot, uh, in the Northeast. Um, you can use, uh, dog chow with big chunks mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, that are too big to be comfortable for most cats and marshmallows. Raccoons love marshmallows and sugar, anything sugary. So, um, you know, you put those in big piles someplace else nearby, so the, those animals go to there and then you make the trap really irresistible to the cat and always make sure that there's food there so that no matter when he comes, he gets a reward for being there. So that's my, sorry. I just, I can't hear a story about a missing cat without <laugh>. 

Speaker 3 (00:24:36):
No, I want, I like, that's why we're chatting today. I wanted to learn things as well, so. Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (00:24:42):
Yeah. I appreciate that. I, it's, uh, the, the, the things that we teach people are usually counter to their instincts mm-hmm. <affirmative> counter to what their instincts would have them do. So that's, uh, that's a little hard sometimes. Um, okay. Well that's, that is interesting. Now, what if, um, I'm working with someone on a similar case, but you, the owner has come to you and said, we have reason to believe that they've been taken by an animal predator. Um, or they're injured. Um, so like, I had a, I have a still unresolved case, for instance, um, of a little Italian greyhound little, like, you know. Right. They're so 

Speaker 3 (00:25:24):
Cute. I 

Speaker 2 (00:25:25):
Love them. They're so sweet and such wonderful little dogs. And, um, uh, a year ago this winter, um, he took off scared from the home of his pet sitter who was, he'd been there many, many times, familiar territory, but he took off. And this family tried, I mean, everything, things that I had not heard of doing, they figured out and, and did them. Um, and we did have a, um, a tracking dog team come in twice actually, um, to try to find this dog. And there's just, it's, he just vanished. So the, it was in the dead of winter in Pennsylvania. Some folks, you know, some, some family members thought that he, you know, maybe got injured and couldn't make it home, or he got stuck at the bottom of, of a ravine. It's very common for animals to, um, head for running water. And of course, that's always at the bottom of a ravine, so that's where they go <laugh>. Um, but if they're injured or weak, they might not be able to make it back up. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, or they, you know, this was close to, um, the intersection of a couple of interstates and they thought someone had picked him up and just drove away with him. So those are kind of, um, a slightly different situation. Is there a difference in how you might handle that, um, that interaction or, um, you're gonna get a photo of the dog and try to communicate with him? I mean, what if he's not there to communicate with? 

Speaker 3 (00:27:07):
Right. So because I am a medium mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, I can talk to them whether they've transitioned or not. Right. Right. So, um, so I would get a picture and then I would check to see whether or not they're still in body or if they've transitioned. 

Speaker 2 (00:27:23):
Oh, interesting. 

Speaker 3 (00:27:23):
Okay. 'cause they feel different. Like one they'll tell me, but two, they also feel different. Huh. 'cause a lot of what I do, the, my two strongest, we call them Claire's. Right. So cla, cognizant, clairvoyant, you hear those kind of words. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, minor knowing and feeling like those are my two strongest, and then sight and sound are right behind. So, um, so they have a different feeling of whether or not they're in their body or not. And they can also, because I'm a medium, they will tell me, and then I will say they're not, I will be able to, to the, it's, you know, because it's always what information the animal is willing to share. And like I said, dogs are usually more willing to share than, um, upfront than than cats. Uh, cats take a moment. And, and it's also how much, particularly in these kind of situations, how much they want their pet parent to know because our animals do take care of us as much as we take care. Sure. 

Speaker 2 (00:28:12):
Oh yeah. <laugh>. You 

Speaker 3 (00:28:13):
Know what I mean? So it's like, yeah. But usually in this instance, they would let me know like, yep, I got injured. This is what this is. To the extent I'm gonna tell you what happened. And I've transitioned. Mm-hmm. And this is the amazing thing about being a medium, is I can still deliver any of the messages that the animal wanted their family to know. Mm-hmm. And the pet parents get to have that moment of saying the things that they wanted to say, knowing their animal is hearing it <laugh>. I know. <laugh> I know it's very, I know it's taking everything again right now to like, keep it together. And this is what happens in this session because I am a feeler. So in these particular ones, I'm feeling the animal, I'm feeling the pet parents and my own. Right. Yeah. So there's a lot of emotions that go on. And that was one of the things as I started to do this, I was like, oh my gosh, it's so unprofessional. I'm like, sh And I was like, you know what? No. Everybody, they would rather see the emotions and Yeah. I think so. And us have this moment than me trying to keep that part out. 

Speaker 2 (00:29:12):
Yeah, absolutely. I would think so. 

Speaker 3 (00:29:14):
Um, but yes, I get to, I get to deliver it. I mean, it's, it's such an honor for me to be able Yeah. To do that. 'cause I've had for sure, you know, my, my pip passed away six months ago and I did not have someone like me. And it's not always easy to talk to your own animals 'cause there's a lot of emotions. Sure. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And the one person I did reach out to, I did not have a good experience with. So I didn't get Yeah. I, I'm not gonna lie, I had a lot of feelings around that <laugh> <laugh>. And I was like, and I thought about it because I was like, what was this like, before I was like, how do people do this? Like, it was just, I was like, how do they go through this without knowing what their animal, 

Speaker 2 (00:29:54):
Because it's, it's wrenching. 

Speaker 3 (00:29:55):
Yes. I was like, why are we not, like, like I said, I get people at the end when they've tried everything else, so they're like, we'll try the weird thing. And I was like, how can we normalize this, whether it's me or someone else? Right. Right. Like, it's not even about my business. It's like, yeah. How do we normalize this for people to have peace in the situation that's going on? Sure. 

Speaker 2 (00:30:14):
Yeah. I mean, this, this case is gonna haunt me the rest of my life. If, I mean, assuming that we never got any more resolution than we have now, uh, it's just, um, I mean, this family just tried everything they used. There was, this is a retired couple, um, and their adult kids were out looking and adult kids' friends and their friends and the house sitter, or the pet sitter and her friends. I mean, ev there, there's a whole community of people, a whole army of people searching. And, um, just, uh, it was, it was so hard to not have good news every time. And still every time I see a dog that looks even vaguely like that dog on a, you know, found dog page, uh, I send it to the, to the adult son. 'cause he's sort of the most active on Facebook, really. 

Speaker 2 (00:31:08):
But he's also kind of, you know, tough enough whatever to Right. Um, to bear the news. Um, and, uh, yeah, that's, um, that is so hard. The other, um, the other really difficult one I had was with, um, a cat who went missing. And, um, we were searching, you know, the places where we believed him to be. And along the path between that place and home. And after two months, um, a neighbor like three doors down from them in a, in an urban like row house kind of neighborhood. So not for like, I think it was like 250 feet from home. He was in the yard yard and just collapsed. He just couldn't move any farther. And, um, I, the owners, um, this young couple, they had finally taken, you know, a night to go up to lake gear or something for the weekend. And, um, so she asked me if I could go over. 

Speaker 2 (00:32:11):
I picked him up, I took him to the emergency vet and made sure that it was him and, you know, got him seen and everything. But he, I mean, he, he'd had some kind of injury. We don't really know what, but the, the owners made it back. Um, and they unfortunately, you know, they had to euthanize him when they got there. And it was just so hard thinking about how hard he was trying to get home mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, um, it's those, it's the ones where there's evidence of a predator, um, whether on video or, you know, just remains Right. Found or something. It's very hard to, to, um, uh, I just, I can't imagine going through that myself. I So you say, you know, what do people do? They just fucking suffer <laugh>. Yeah. A lot. 

Speaker 3 (00:33:00):
Yeah. No, that's what I did. I was like, this, it's, you know, I reached out to someone and, and it wasn't, and I was like, I can only half 'cause of my own gre, you know? And Right. It was like, I was, I, because I was making decisions, you know, he came down with, um, diabetes and I was, I was like, what do you wanna do babe? You know, like, what, you know, I got the shots we tried and it just, he was like, I don't, I don't wanna Yeah. And I wanted someone else to validate that for me because I was like, IM in, I'm in it. You know what I mean? Like, 

Speaker 2 (00:33:33):
Oh, yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:33:34):
Um, so it, it, it's, it's, yeah. It just, he's my soulmate and Yeah. It, you know, we don't ever think about that part when we get them or when they come, you know, when they get us. 'cause I always view it as I'm owned by my animals. 

Speaker 2 (00:33:52):
Yeah. So for sure. 

Speaker 3 (00:33:53):
Um, you know, when they show up in our lives and, uh, it's, and, and then to not know, like you said, where people are like, what happened? Yeah. That's, you know, humans are very much closure people, whether it's a relationship or an animal like humans, we really like our closure. 

Speaker 2 (00:34:09):
I just wanna know. Yes. Yeah. And I, you know, the, for this family with the cat who, uh, this couple with cat who, who didn't make it, um, it was at least a shade better than if they had never found him. Yeah. You know, um, I think it's, I mean, it's not, you can't grade quality of grief or anything like that, but you know, in terms of like terms like the outcome you hope for, um, you always hope that you can find out what happened or come up with a, a reasonable explanation because people do just, they want to know, um, what are the kinds of the most common kinds of questions that you get from people about communicating with their pets or other people's pets? Do you ever get like, there's a cat that won't stop coming to our house? How do I make it stop? <laugh>? 

Speaker 3 (00:35:01):
Yes, I <laugh> Yes. That was what I was telling you about how cats see everything. It's is one of my clients, um, I see her about once a year and she has three indoor outdoor kitties. And one of her kitty keeps going to a condo down the row. And that owner of that condo does not want to hit <laugh> him in the backyard. <laugh>. 

Speaker 2 (00:35:19):
Yeah. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:35:20):
So I was like, listen, I will, I got some abilities, but he still has free will. And I explained to her like, that's cat behavior. I said, that lady in that condo, she has two cats. They sit in the window, he likes to go visit with them, and there's not a dog, there's not a, you know. Yeah. So I explained that to her and she was like, oh, okay. I just thought he was being a jerk and not listening to me. And I was like, no, he's just being a cat. I 

Speaker 2 (00:35:43):
Mean, that might be it too, but <laugh>. 

Speaker 3 (00:35:45):
Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Like, you know, that's why we love them is like, that's always part of it. Are you just being a jerk right now? Or, you know. Yeah. So, um, so the, uh, the questions I get asked the most about talking to them is, uh, people kind of wanna know like how it works. And one of the things for me, because there are people that are trained, like, I was born this way mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, but the, the funny thing is, and I have all these funny stories, is I didn't know that because when you're born a certain way, you don't, there's never a part where you think about it as separate from yourself. Right? Yeah. So I was just always really good with animals. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know what I mean? I was one of those quiet kids that I didn't play with dolls. I had all stuffed animals and I knew what I always, you know, I knew I wanted to be a biologist 

Speaker 2 (00:36:31):
That Yeah, me too. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:36:32):
I Right. It's funny, <laugh>, I was like, I don't want dolls. What am I gonna do with those <laugh> 

Speaker 2 (00:36:35):
Little people? Yeah. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:36:38):
I can't brush them and, you know, feed them. And, um, and so for most, and, and the other part is I thought it was a wildlife biologist thing. I thought all wildlife biologists talked to animals. And it was years and years, decades later, where I was like, oh, you all, you don't do that 

Speaker 2 (00:36:57):
<laugh>. And they're like, 

Speaker 3 (00:36:58):
No. I was like, okay, because we're a pretty introverted group. We like to hang out in the woods. We don't talk a lot <laugh>. So I thought it was, and I was, yeah. And 

Speaker 2 (00:37:04):
Then did you feel like, well, how do you do your job if you don't like? Right. It's so, because 

Speaker 3 (00:37:08):
It was so much of how, how, you know, when I'm writing environmental assessments or I am out in the field, it, it's how I move through this world mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, um, so I say that to the people out there listening that may have this ability also, and they don't know it mm-hmm. <affirmative> and because it's just how you are. Like, when I had horses, we had bred our mare twice and Fire Bolt, he was about a year old. And I looked at him one day and I realized he didn't know his name because I never said it. Hmm. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, because we've just moved together. Right. Is because I was talking to him intuitively and having no idea that that's what I was doing. Hmm. And so it, it's those kind of funny things of you may have this ability and not even know. 

Speaker 3 (00:37:48):
So if you're good with animals, start asking yourself some questions and start <laugh> question in a little bit of a different way. Yeah. And, and then there are people that do get trained in this. It is a skill that you can learn. Hmm. And so there are people that I have not gone down that path yet of teaching other people. I, I get asked a lot to do that. It's just not mm-hmm. <affirmative> how the universe has directed me yet. Um, but there are people that you, if it's something you wanna learn, you absolutely can. Interesting. And so, and the other part that I like to teach people is like, it, it's not always, as we were saying, it's not always easy to talk to your own animal. 

Speaker 2 (00:38:23):
Sure. 

Speaker 3 (00:38:24):
Because anytime we ha whether, and that's why, you know, in the human part, it's like, that's why you're not friends with your clients. Yeah. 'cause the second I'm attached, my intuition is different because 

Speaker 2 (00:38:33):
It's not Yeah. That's why you go to a therapist instead of to your friends because they don't have the objectivity, the Yeah. You know, the, the therapist or the communicator doesn't have an agenda. Right. They just can give you the information and 

Speaker 3 (00:38:47):
Yes, they're very much removed. There's no filters, there's no there. And, um, so 'cause people get it and I'm like, no, no. It's very normal to not be able to fully hear. So that's why mm-hmm. People that are communicators, we have some, you know, like we get validation from others 'cause our members are there. And, um, so one, it is something that you can be taught. So if there are people that want to learn, you can, um, the other parts of like, how does it work? And like I've explained, it's, it's, no, for me, it's no different than us sitting here having a conversation. Hmm. So even for the people that learn it, it's very much about asking questions like, hey mm-hmm. <affirmative>, what do you know, what is it that you wanna share today? Like, I have a client later today, um, it's a dog who has a cancer diagnosis, and so mm-hmm. 

Speaker 3 (00:39:30):
<affirmative>, we're going to gather some information on what the dog would like to do. And then also the owner, she wants to do some energy work. So we're gonna see if the dog is open to that, and then we'll, we'll do some of that for her as well. And, um, so we, it it's about asking the questions. That's what it always looks like in animal communication is like, what do you wanna share? What do you, and there's also a part, and this is whether it's humans or animals, it's one of the things I teach and, and especially anyone who, 'cause we all have intuition, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So the, the level that yours developed is, is different, but everybody has it. And there's this place of where the responsibility comes in of just because we get the information doesn't mean that it's meant to be shared. 

Speaker 3 (00:40:14):
So there is this part of when, because it's a three-way conversation that's going on mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I'm talking to the human, I'm talking to the animal, and at the same time I'm talking to the animal, the animal's like, look, this is, this is a situation. This is what I would like my mom to know. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, sometimes they will, if, if there has been less than favorable, um, outcome to mm-hmm. <affirmative> a particular situation like Lost Pet and say they, you know, they did transition from a predator. The animal may not want their pet parent to know all the details of the attack or that sort of thing. So I will get that information because they'll show me pictures of it. Hmm. And that's the conversation of where I honor, where the pet is like, just tell her that this is what happened. 

Speaker 3 (00:40:54):
Because that's all they want their mom. So it's, it's not a, a hiding or anything. There's just where the animal takes care of their human as well. Sure. But there's this place of so many people who are learning, you know, to develop their intuition. They think, oh, 'cause they get a message to a person, or now they're just supposed to go tell them. And it's like, no, no. Right. I walked down the street, you have any idea how much information I get all day about people <laugh>. Yeah. And 95% of it is not meant to be delivered in that moment. 

Speaker 2 (00:41:20):
Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:41:21):
Yeah. And so that's the other part of, like, this is where the, the, you know, it's like Spider-Man says, with great power comes great responsibility. <laugh> is true. This consciousness of, you know, it's, 

Speaker 2 (00:41:32):
It's, it's, Hmm. That's such a hard decision though. I mean, I guess it sounds like you go with the wishes of the person or animal communicating with you, but there, as someone who has a vivid imagination and all you would have to say is the least little, you know, got taken by a whatever, um, I would develop a permanently looping Right. Movie of what that looked like, how that animal felt, how, you know, the fear, all of that. Um, that, I mean, that's, it's very potent. And, uh, that would be, I don't know if it would be better for me to not know. Yeah. I don't, I mean, if I, if I were able to see it, like someone in our, our network, our missing responder network, um, posted some video last night, uh, of a cat that was attacked by a coyote. And then, and this video was from like a ring camera or something from someone's, um, security camera. But, um, a second coyote came in, the cat did not make it. Um, and, uh, I, I couldn't watch, I mean, I didn't watch it 'cause I just knew that it would be forever in my brain. You know, just visuals are so, so hard. Uh, so I, I guess I'm, um, do you ever go against the wishes of the being communicating with you and say, no, this person really needs to know the, otherwise her brain is gonna, you know, just Right. 

Speaker 3 (00:43:16):
Yes. And that's where my part is. The facilitator comes in. Hmm. So there's very much, because, because I'm facilitating, and this is the, the, the energy part of her. Right. The intuitive part, because the second your brain does that, I can feel that mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so then that's where the conversation I have with the end. I'm like, okay, I hear what you're saying. And we're here because we wanna get your pet parent peace of mind. And so then intuitively, 'cause you know, it's also divinely given from the universe mm-hmm. Information. So I'm hearing, I'm hearing what your brain is saying and what you're, you're needing in that moment. 

Speaker 2 (00:43:48):
I'm starting the movie going, 

Speaker 3 (00:43:49):
Yes, I can feel the starting the movie. So I'll start to ask you questions. And at the same time, I'm talking to your animal, and at the same time I'm checking to see what you're able to receive. So that and interesting. And that's my place where I'm like, okay. 'cause I, I have this saying of, um, when I'm working with someone, people or animal, sometimes you can come in right through the front door. Mm-hmm. And sometimes I gotta come in through the side window, you know? Sure. Sometimes I gotta just, I gotta bring it in a little bit softer from the side. Mm-hmm. Like, okay, I hear your brain is picking up. I understand that all these images are now going through your mind. And then we'll start to talk about where that's coming from. What are the feelings attached to that? Why is the, you know, why is the loop starting? 

Speaker 2 (00:44:34):
Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:44:34):
Because then one, I, we get to do some healing for you in that moment. Excuse me. Mm-hmm. And then I will then know which information to deliver and your animal, because it's a real time conversation. Right. So your animal is like, look, I don't want her to know this part. And then as you start to loop, potentially your animal then gets to choose again. See? And so it's realtime conversation that we're all doing. And I'm facilitating everybody of like, look, your pet parent needs this, what, you know, sh show me another picture. I will then check with them of like, this is, I'm losing my voice. I'm so sorry 

Speaker 2 (00:45:09):
<laugh>. 

Speaker 3 (00:45:11):
Or I'm like, this is what I would like to say to her. And they'll go, okay, yes, I'm good with that. And then I will deliver that information to the human and then we'll the human and I will have a conversation Sure. To make sure that everybody is getting the healing that they really want in that moment. Because we definitely, I have not done my job if you walk away as the pet parent looping and still upset. Like, if this is a place where we want closure. Right. We want the, we want everybody's nervous system to be calm and complete and relaxed and be like, yes, I am at peace with everything that has happened. It, it doesn't feel good and I'm not happy about it because Sure. I miss my pet. Yeah. And I have a full understanding now and I can move forward. Yeah. Without what ifs or doubts or loops in my brain. 

Speaker 2 (00:45:58):
Right. Um, speaking of brains, you mentioned that you've had multiple traumatic brain injuries. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> do have those, um, affected your abilities, either making them more, um, sensitive or blocking them sometimes until you heal or anything like that. Have you had any kind of, um, interference with when those things have happened? If you don't mind my asking? 

Speaker 3 (00:46:27):
Oh, no, you're totally, and it, and it's funny 'cause I don't, um, the, this is one of the places where the universe starts to direct you in another place. 'cause I never used to even talk about them. Mm-hmm. And now as, um, I'm starting to do a few more public things, people are like, well, how come you're not a biologist anymore? And then I have to explain why I'm not a biologist 

Speaker 2 (00:46:46):
Anymore. Yeah. Well, we've, we've had, I had two TBIs in my immediately immediate family. And so it's a very interesting subject to me. The, the recovery process and all that stuff. So I'm just, I'm very interested to know, you know, because this all is so internal. Yes. Um, how that's affected your work. 

Speaker 3 (00:47:04):
And it's, it's so interesting because there, there are so many intuitives that you'll come across where they had a head injury and now they have all these abilities. Right. Like, there's a lot where that's a catalyst to turn on, um, or develop more of their abilities. And that has not been the case for me is, like I said, most of mine, um, 'cause you, you develop new ones as you go along. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and other, it's, it's like exercise, right. So you, your muscles get stronger and this sort of thing. And the animal gifts. I was born with a lot of my other intuitive gifts I was born with. And so the head injuries have not affected them because I was born with them that way. Sure. And, um, I have not noticed a shift of, you know, the head injury happened and now I have this gift mm-hmm. 

Speaker 3 (00:47:53):
<affirmative>. And, and the truth was with this last one that I had, it was, I was so sick for so many years right after that, because I had four types of vertigo. I spent years in physical therapy. Um, my balance was horrible. I had to learn to sort of walk properly again with falling over so many things. Yeah. And so many doctors having no idea what to even do with me. And I had been to all the specialists, so there was a lot of trauma around that. And mine in particular is that my brain turned off at one o'clock every day. I would just Wow. And I had no idea whether I was gonna wake up. And that went on for almost 15 years. Wow. So it was really hard to have a job and do your thing when you're like, my brain is gonna turn off <laugh>. 

Speaker 3 (00:48:36):
Yeah. I got five minutes left. <laugh>. Right. Exactly. And all of the other things that go on, you know, I got divorced through this process. Like it affects everything. Yeah. And, um, you don't know how you're gonna support yourself. You don't, the doctors were like, we're gonna have to put you in a facility. And I was like, the hell you are. Yeah. Like, no. And so yeah, there was a lot of sheer willpower that got me through. Yeah. A lot of it. But I, I am not one of those people that had a head injury and now they have this really cool gift and ability to You can speak Greek or something. Yeah. Yes. <laugh>. Um, mine have just developed, you know, one of the things I do is, you know, the, like the mediumship part that has gotten stronger and it's also, you know, there's this part of who you have around you mm-hmm. 

Speaker 3 (00:49:21):
<affirmative> and because if you have people around you or situations in your life that are not in alignment, that are not a match, they can block things and Interesting. So, you know, my former husband, there was times where, um, I would say things to him like, Hey, I think the truck's gonna break down tomorrow 'cause I have a truck. Um, or I would, one of our horses, I was like, I think river's gonna be lame, you know, that he is got an and and it would happen. And he didn't like that, so he may, I was not allowed to say anything and I allowed that. So it's like I, there was a part where I turned so much of it off for so long. Yeah, sure. And then it was so interesting 'cause as soon as we separated, it was like all of these lights had been turned on and this is not about him. 

Speaker 3 (00:50:03):
You know, those choices we made. Yeah, sure. He's a wonderful person. It's just when you're not an energetic match with someone mm-hmm. <affirmative> that it, it can block things. So it's one of the things that, you know, as an intuitive mentor for people and even as a life coach or whatever, and you know, you know, you're, that you've gotta be really mindful of what is in your life and who is in your life and Sure. Invite people to be really on purpose about it because it, it affects everything, you know? Yeah. If, if you're trying to start a business and you are in a relationship that is abusive Yeah. There's a lot of times that your business is not gonna be able to take off because all of your energy is at a lower vibration and having to go to something else to protect yourself and Sure. Starting something new, whether you're writing a book or you're, anything you're creating takes creative openness and then the other part of it's needing to be closed and protective. So Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (00:50:54):
That's true. 

Speaker 3 (00:50:55):
That's, it's, it's that kind of place. I don't know if that was, that's where I went. I don't know. 

Speaker 2 (00:50:59):
Yeah, no, that's if I 

Speaker 3 (00:51:00):
Digressed or not. 

Speaker 2 (00:51:01):
No, no, no. That was great. Um, and so, uh, you work, it sounds like you work with some people on an ongoing basis or a repetitive basis. Um, is annual a typical thing or, you know, do you have clients who see you every month? Or how does that usually work? Um, I never, it never occurred to me that'd be more than like a, um, an ad hoc thing. Like, I have a need to communicate about this thing. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:51:29):
Well, particularly with the type of work you do, it's very, yeah. You know, it's very acute, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's very, at that moment, we need to find out what's going on. Right. And, um, and honestly the, with the Lost Pet case that we're, her and I both were like, we didn't think it'd be going on this long. Like, when she texted me, you know, I was like, um, 'cause I don't usually, I don't communicate with my clients by text unless they're scheduling an appointment, like everything's done in a, in a session. Um, and so it, you know, I was like, oh, because I know their relationship. You know, we've, I've had a session with her and all of her animals before, 'cause she had two dogs that weren't getting along. And so we had a session. So I met everybody that day, you know, so that's sort of the thing. 

Speaker 3 (00:52:09):
Like we had a session with the dogs and I met all the cats, then showed up and so we chatted and then even the goats chimed in a little, 'cause she has two goats. And I was like, these are the goats. So that's not what, how we set the sessions up, but sort of at the end, everybody wants to say hi. Yeah. And so I, I did meet her kitties and, um, so there are, you know, humans aside as far as my hu you know, life coaching that's repetitive. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, my, uh, there's sort of a couple categories for the animals. If it's end of life transition, it's usually one or two times. So like, depend depending on when they, when when they come to me, if we're looking at a matter of weeks or a month, they, you know, usually they've delivered all of their information and everybody is at peace. 

Speaker 3 (00:52:55):
And then I won't hear, we won't have another session. Um, sometimes if it's a few months they'll wanna have another session to be like, are we getting closer? You know, where are we, where are we at in the diagnosis? That sort of thing. So sometimes there's one or two, depending on the timeframe we're working on. Um, and I do always offer to my clients who are at sort of the end of life transition period of if, if they think it's getting close. Like if they're like, I think this might be the week I offer them to text me and I will check in for free. Or, 'cause that's just, you know what I was like, send me a text, I'll check in with them and I'll let you know where we are. Sure. Other ones, if we've got beha, like if we're working on behavioral, you know, some training sort of things mm-hmm. 

Speaker 3 (00:53:37):
<affirmative>, we'll then we'll have a couple of sessions to see the progress. Like I'll give them ideas and be like, try these. Sure. And then we'll meet a little while later to see how those are working. If we need to modify, add any new things in. Um, I'm trying to think my other ones. And then like I have, like I said, a couple of clients who reach out once a year just to do a check-in and be like, just wanna see what everyone's up to, what everyone's thinking. <laugh>, do they like the new boyfriend? 'cause everyone's acting a little weird. 

Speaker 2 (00:54:01):
Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:54:02):
Um, that sort of thing. And those are, you know, those are always fun. Those are. Yeah. 'cause they're the, those are the check, you know, nothing is tragically happening 

Speaker 2 (00:54:11):
At that. Yeah. Time a little easier emotionally, I'm sure. Yeah. Um, I mean this loft cat case could go on for a couple months pretty easily. It wouldn't be surprising. Uh, it's great when they come home on their own and they do sometimes, but we always tell people it's a marathon, not a sprint. 'cause Yeah. You just, you know. Yeah. It's, uh, but if this client of yours would like some guidance, I'd be happy to 

Speaker 3 (00:54:36):
Oh, absolutely. 

Speaker 2 (00:54:37):
Directly and help her out. That'd be fine. Thank you 

Speaker 3 (00:54:40):
So much for that. I appreciate it. Oh, 

Speaker 2 (00:54:42):
Sure. Yeah. Um, so you mentioned that you have a podcast mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the podcast covers what part of your business or does it cover all the things that you do? 

Speaker 3 (00:54:54):
It covers whatever the universe tells me to talk about that week, <laugh>. So, um, that's why it's called Insights with Alicia doesn't have a like animal or people name. Hmm. Uh, so it has covered, um, animals. Like I'll get on and I'll talk about animals. Like I said, the one that's called Animals of the Masters of Energy. Right. Um, I will get on like this week's I talked about psychic tools, so cards and crystals and pendulums and sage in your house and, and that sort of thing. 'cause that's what I was guided to do. Um, believe me, I wish there was more that like I, I wish the universe gave, and I've even talked about this a bit. Like can you give me a couple so I can get ahead? Because I used to record it live. Yeah. I recorded live every Monday night. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:55:37):
And so just in the last I think two months I've switched it to not being live anymore. So it gives me more flexibility into my schedule and that sort of thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Plus then I turned it into a blog. Right. There's a, you know this Yeah. There's a lot that goes into what we do with these. Indeed. And, um, and then a lot of the rest of it is talking about behaviors or concepts that we never really think about. So a couple of weeks ago, I think it was last week, I did one on, um, the idea of giving someone the benefit of the doubt mm-hmm. <affirmative> and how that's not always what we think it is. Hmm. You know, so it's like we, because there's so many times we fall into the pattern of, oh, okay, someone's treated me badly, I've gotta give them the benefit of the doubt because I wanna be compassionate or whatever. 

Speaker 3 (00:56:18):
And now we're stuck in a cycle of giving someone the benefit of the doubt over and over and over when it doesn't serve us and Right. Um, so comparing, there's things they used to, they're sort of like mini classes. They were about 30 minutes long. So I talk about, um, you know, active listening mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I, I get on and I teach people what that actually looks like. There's one that goes along with that that talks about, you know, offering solutions or listening. 'cause there's so many people Right. In our society that we automatically fall into fixing mm-hmm. <affirmative> like, so your friend comes to you with this, with something that's going on and we Sure. 'cause we're taught that that's caring and it's not. That's caretaking. Yeah. And so I teach people the, the difference between that because that changes every relationship you have. 

Speaker 3 (00:57:01):
Hmm. Because when you go and you listen, people feel seen and heard, which is really what anybody wants. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then if they're open to it, you can be like, are you looking for feedback on this? Or a question? Because I know for me, when I'm all in my feelings, I can't hear anything you're trying to Yeah. Help me with. I've gotta get my feelings out first and I need someone to just be there with me in that moment. Yeah. Um, so lots of things like that hidden drama, uh, grieving the dream. Right. Which is sort of the idea of if you're coming out of a relationship or anything else, it's like you have the grief of that, but then we, the grief of the fantasy of what we thought it was gonna be, which yeah. Can be so hard. And most people don't even know that exists. And they're like, why can't I get over this? And I'm like, well, 'cause you're not grieving the relationship. You're gr grieving what could have been. 

Speaker 2 (00:57:48):
Yeah. So for what you thought there was lots of things. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (00:57:50):
Yeah. Things like that of where I think my analytical brain just sees behaviors or concepts differently, and then I get on and talk about them. 

Speaker 2 (00:57:59):
That's pretty cool. 

Speaker 3 (00:58:00):
Yeah. I wish it was 

Speaker 2 (00:58:01):
Very <laugh> 

Speaker 2 (00:58:03):
One section. No, it's, it's not <laugh>. It's neat. It's neat that you're able to kind of flow with that. I have, um, have had podcasts in the past that have been a little, um, less, uh, a little less scoped than this one. Um, I find this one a lot easier to deal with because I just, I have, you know, kind of parameters within which I'm trying to Absolutely. You know, give certain kinds of information and focus on certain things. But, um, so if somebody wants to, um, engage your services, how would they go about doing that? 

Speaker 3 (00:58:42):
Uh, a couple different ways. So they can visit my website, which is who knew healing.com. And then, um, and I have an animal page and it, and a people page. So you, there's oh, cools sections. So you go straight to the animal tab. It explains what I do very well. It's very detailed. It, it shows you how to prepare, tells you the things that we can chat about, the things that you're looking for. Um, the other is, you know, Facebook, who knew Healing Instagram, who knew healing? Um, I'm on Pet Works also, there's a, a website called pet works.com where animal practitioners of any kind, um, can post their services. Cool. So I have a listing on there. Okay. Um, I think those 

Speaker 2 (00:59:21):
Google right, of course. We're always trying to Yeah. End up on the first page of Google <laugh>. That's right. Get those, those high results. Right. That s e o get that in there. That's right. Oh my God. That's a whole, I don't know anything about that yet. I mean, obviously I understand generally, but like, yes, I have, when I was starting this podcast and trying to come up with a name, a lot of people were very concerned that it didn't have missing pets in the name. Um, you know, that, that it was not gonna get seen. And I was like, it just doesn't, that just doesn't resonate with me at all to like, have it be literal. I'm just much, much more comfortable with this other thing. So, anyway. Well, thank you so much for doing this. I really appreciate it. Um, oh gosh, thank you. This has been the be I, I, it's, yeah. I, it's been really fun. I think what you do is amazing. And so, um, I now connected with you so I can give people your services as well of Yeah. You know. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I'm, I'm a freebie. I do this volunteer, um, but I can also refer people to professionals if they need to, you know, up their game a little. Thank you so much. Oh, you bet. Thank you. 

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
No place Like Home is a podcast about missing pets. I feature content from owners, finders, volunteers and professionals. I always appreciate rating and a review on your podcast app and a follow on Facebook where you can find the show at npl h as in no place like Home Mitch. Find episodes, transcripts, and additional information at no place like home.buzz sprout.com. If you have questions or feedback, you can contact me at npl h mitch@gmail.com. Remember to always think missing, not stray or dumped. This podcast was created, hosted, recorded, and produced by me, Mitch Bernard. The opinions expressed on this show are those of the people expressing them and do not necessarily represent the views of any other entity. Thanks for listening.